China Increases Typhoon Aid to Philippines

[grahamw48]

How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

Having to roll your own smokes ?

Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

Can only afford cheaper beers ?

Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

It's their kids I feel sorry for.

I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.

[gWaPito]

How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

Having to roll your own smokes ?

Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

Can only afford cheaper beers ?

Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

It's their kids I feel sorry for.

I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.

Spot on Graham. I would call having to live on £1.70 a day poverty..just like the 130 million folks in China and 40% of the Philippine population That was before the recent earthquake and tyhoon.

[joebloggs]

Spot on Graham. I would call having to live on £1.70 a day poverty..just like the 130 million folks in China and 40% of the Philippine population That was before the resent earthquake and tyhoon.

tell me gWaPito, as you do your weekly shop, do you spend more than £11.90 on food a week (£1.70*7), oh and don't forget to take off your rent, poll tax, gas, water, electricity, everyone has to pay these

now tell me what is the minimum you need a day to survive, and then what figure you would use to say your living in poverty. i wait your answers

[grahamw48]

tell me gWaPito, as you do your weekly shop, do you spend more than £11.90 on food a week (£1.70*7), oh and don't forget to take off your rent, poll tax, gas, water, electricity, everyone has to pay these

now tell me what is the minimum you need a day to survive, and then what figure you would use to say your living in poverty. i wait your answers

People on most benefits DON'T have to pay rent or council tax.

Food has never been cheaper in this country...and HEALTHY food more easily available year-round.

Energy bills are high (but so are comfort levels in homes).

ANYBODY who is classed as in 'fuel poverty' (ie spending more than 10% of their income on fuel) is entitled to receive free home insulation, and in many cases a brand new replacement boiler too.

There are two lots of heating subsidies being paid by the govt. this winter for those on Pension Credit, as well as the elderly.

Then we have the various additional freebies for those on most benefits or on OAP...ie free dental treatment, glasses, prescriptions etc.

How anyone can compare our mollycoddled existence to REAL poverty in countries like the Philippines is just beyond me.

[joebloggs]

People on most benefits DON'T have to pay rent or council tax.

Food has never been cheaper in this country...and HEALTHY food more easily available year-round.

Energy bills are high (but so are comfort levels in homes).

ANYBODY who is classed as in 'fuel poverty' (ie spending more than 10% of their income on fuel) is entitled to receive free home insulation, and in many cases a brand new replacement boiler too.

There are two lots of heating subsidies being paid by the govt. this winter for those on on Pension Credit, as well as the elderly.

Then we have the various additional freebies for those on most benefits or on OAP...ie free dental treatment, glasses, prescriptions etc.

How anyone can compare our mollycoddled existence to REAL poverty in countries like the Philippines is just beyond me.

give me a figure graham, tell me what you think the minimum monthly amount would be that anything less you would then class as living in poverty for

someone on benefits
someone working
a married couple both working with 2 kids.

[Arthur Little]

Then we have the various additional freebies for those on most benefits or on OAP ...ie free dental treatment, glasses, prescriptions etc.

Yes ... OAPs receive free prescriptions, Graham. But neither dental treatment NOR glasses are free to the over 65s here, unfortunately.

How anyone can compare our mollycoddled existence to REAL poverty in countries like the Philippines is just beyond me.

...................... 's true, !

[joebloggs]

How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

Having to roll your own smokes ?

Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

Can only afford cheaper beers ?

Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

It's their kids I feel sorry for.

I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.

so if there is no poverty in the UK, why is there a Child Poverty Act 2010

the bill received cross party support

[Michael Parnham]

How do you define 'poverty' in the UK ?

Struggling to afford the sports package on Sky ?

Having to roll your own smokes ?

Can only afford a takeway 3 times a week ?

Can only afford cheaper beers ?

Holiday abroad only once every two years ?

Sorry, but a LOT of people are in so-called poverty in this welfare-state country because of their own stupidity.

It's their kids I feel sorry for.

I just wish they could be stopped from producing them until they adopt a more responsible attitude towards life.

Well said Graham!

[joebloggs]

Well said Graham!

tell me Michael and Graham what monthly figure would you define as poverty ?

[grahamw48]

tell me Michael and Graham what monthly figure would you define as poverty ?

Poverty is a 'condition' a 'state of being'. Figures are meaningless, as they are so variable and circumstances-dependent.

You've either got sufficient for your basic needs (not bloody Sky TV, fags and booze !) or not.

There is a system set up in this country to help prevent people from being poor, to the extent they are suffering.

Of course you can take a horse to water...

[joebloggs]

Poverty is a 'condition' a 'state of being'. Figures are meaningless, as they are so variable and circumstances-dependent.

You've either got sufficient for your basic needs (not bloody Sky TV, fags and booze !) or not.

There is a system set up in this country to help prevent people from being poor, to the extent they are suffering.

Of course you can take a horse to water...

you work graham, you must have a minimum figure you need to survive without cigs, beer, sky etc, a figure you need, at the end of the month you would have £0 left or your were getting in debt you've never thought about it ?

[grahamw48]

Try PERSUADING people to have FREE insulation and FREE new boilers.

I do it nearly every day of the week, and have been doing so for over 30 years.

You wouldn't believe the stupidity, apathy and bone-idleness I encounter.

[grahamw48]

Joe, I will NOT be giving you any meaningless figures ...sorry.

It's a bone I won't be fighting over.

[joebloggs]

Joe, I will NOT be giving you any meaningless figures ...sorry.

It's a bone I won't be fighting over.

there are not meaningless figures , I'm asking you for a minimum monthly figure you regard as being in poverty ..