what a mess advice please

[mick foreman]

Any advice on what to do ? Help plz

[Terpe]

Any advice on what to do ? Help plz

Hi Mick,

Yours is not a simple case.
You need to move it forward with caution.

Take a look at the 'paper' application forms and guidance:-

Personal Details Form - VAF4A (spouse visa)

APPENDIX 2 - VAF 4A Financial Requirement

Guidance Notes

Guide to Supporting Documents (outside UK applications)

Go through the questions and review what your answers would be.

Answer the questions simply but honestly.
Don't be fooled into thinking UKBA does not take time to check. They have access to many data-bases worldwide.

Some folks on this forum have been 'caught-out' even when mistakes were totally honest caused by misunderstanding the questions on the form.
Needless to say they faced refusal under immigration rules para 320 (used deception in an entry clearance)

Mick, please take some time to go through the questions.


I'm not sure whether or not this UKBA Marriage validity flowchart will be of any help but worth a look anyway.


The ECO must be satisfied that you are validly married to each other.

Any marriage taking place outside the UK is governed by the following three questions:-
- Is the type of marriage one that is recognised in the country in which it took place?
- Was the actual marriage properly executed so as to satisfy the requirements of the law of the country in which it took place?
- Was there anything in the law of either party's country of domicile that restricted his / her freedom to enter the marriage?

Where ECO has any doubts at all over the recognition of the marriage or whether it was properly and legally executed to satisfy the law of the Philippines.
It's the responsibility of the applicant to provide evidence of a properly and legally executed marriage.

Normally that would be valid marriage certificate.

Go over the applications questions.
Double check the paperwork - especially dates.
If there is any conflict of dates do not take any risks.

There are quite a few Philippine solicitors operating in London that may be able to help you through the documentary/legal issues.
I don't have their details to hand right now, but maybe others can post them up

[mick foreman]

Thank you so much for that, I think I need speak to one of them solicitors, Monera has spoken to the judge in the sharia courts and he is adamant that she was legally allowed to marry and has written a letter on headed paper to explain this for us to use in visa application. He is on vacation at this time but when he gets back to Gensan he is going to look to see if it's possible for him to change the dates on her divorce papers.

If I could get my hands on that lawyer that ripped us off !!!! we have been to his offices twice together trying to track him down, but we have only managed to get his son who told us his dad had a major drink and casino addiction and has left his wife. They no longer have any more contact with him. Whether that is true or not I really don't know !!!

But that does not help us.

We have been told that the marriage certificate is valid we have.

[Terpe]

....We have been told that the marriage certificate is valid that we have.

Mick, the only thing that really matters or counts is that the documents do NOT show any contradictions especially on dates etc and that the ECO or Caseworker are satisfied enough to 'tick the box'.

Minimise risks wherever you can. This is life impacting serious.....