A reminder of when Britain was Great

[KeithD]

Thanks to Cameron going into Libya and then leaving them to it, and ignoring the plight in Syria, he has made the immigrant and terrorists problems worse. Lessons learnt.... where?

[les_taxi]

The lessons are leave these .... hole countries to sort out their own people.

[Dedworth]

Tens of thousands died because of the way we treated others. Back then we did things on a larger scale than what ISIS, the American 'founders', Portuguese, French, Spanish, etc, did around the world. Only the Nazi's caused bigger issues.

Examples please - So our former colonies were better off than they would have been under ISIS but worse than if run by the Nazis ?

We mainly provided positives getting a lot of them out of the stone age. Law, language, security, trade, transport, education etc

On independence the colonies were left with a proper economic, political and social infrastructure which many of them subsequently screwed up. Just compare prosperous stable Malaysia with basket case Zimbabwe

[les_taxi]

I'm with you on that Ded

[Michael Parnham]

Even in our modern world some countries need dictators

[les_taxi]

Even in our modern world some countries need dictators

Yes if it keeps them in check-some nations are just war-like always will be it seems.

[KeithD]

Examples please

What you see as giving good to another country is seen as colonization and domination by the natives. The list of this is endless. Are the Native Americans better off for being virtually wiped out by Europeans? Definitely not. Are many of the countries in Africa that we took slaves from at the same level of living as us today? No. Are the tribes in the Amazon better off? No.

We like to think we have done them a favour, but there is still a lot of resentment to this day. It is no different than if the Philippines was part of Japan today, or Britain's all belonged to Germany. Neither of them positive from where I sit.

[Dedworth]

What you see as giving good to another country is seen as colonization and domination by the natives. The list of this is endless. Are the Native Americans better off for being virtually wiped out by Europeans? Definitely not. Are many of the countries in Africa that we took slaves from at the same level of living as us today? No. Are the tribes in the Amazon better off? No.

We like to think we have done them a favour, but there is still a lot of resentment to this day. It is no different than if the Philippines was part of Japan today, or Britain's all belonged to Germany. Neither of them positive from where I sit.

None of the above examples can be blamed on the British Empire or legacy thereof I thought you were talking about ISIS & Holocaust type atrocities. Native Americans were killed after the War of Independence, Slavery was abolished 1833 when the Empire was not at it's zenith, we didn't colonise South America

[KeithD]

They are all examples of colonization. It could not be simpler. The benefits for the coloniser, whoever they are, far outweigh the colonised, whatever point in time it is.

[les_taxi]

I used to pick up an Indian lady who felt proud of her British/Indian heritage.She says we turned India into a proper thriving democracy and thinks it was good for india in the long run
We benefited from the romans invading us,still amazing to think the A1 motorway was built by the Romans

[KeithD]

Tens of thousands of Indians where enslaved and abused though , only those higher up the social ladder benefited, and that still happens to this day thanks to our influence.

[jonnijon]

Without a doubt we should have left Saddam in power.

Very true