Life in UK...now

[KeithD]

....do you take Amex?

Western Union only....accounts in Nigeria

[andy17]

Lets be honest london and some of the very top earners distort the national avg wage.

For the employees working for me in my department (creative) minimum is 23k, based in Bradford (not the most prosperous city in the UK by a long way) - and they are all HEY graded and so I take it's the same for other design companies in the North.
Andy

[andy17]

Western Union only....accounts in Nigeria

Just a minute, this is beginning to sound familiar now... was it you that sold me the deeds to a biofuel quarry in Western Sahara?

[KeithD]

Just a minute, this is beginning to sound familiar now... was it you that sold me the deeds to a biofuel quarry in Western Sahara?

With as much free sand as you could carry......sure was

[andypaul]

For the employees working for me in my department (creative) minimum is 23k, based in Bradford (not the most prosperous city in the UK by a long way) - and they are all HEY graded and so I take it's the same for other design companies in the North.
Andy

Im sure there are people on higher amounts who deserve the money but i know many professions have London weighting.

Then there are the silly salaries in the city and west end i can think people I know who are glorified admin staff on 2-3 times even more for some PA's many cant belive the amount they get.

[andy17]

Im sure there are people on higher amounts who deserve the money but i know many professions have London weighting.

Then there are the silly salaries in the city and west end i can think people I know who are glorified admin staff on 2-3 times even more for some PA's many cant belive the amount they get.

I guess as Toks mentioned, the median should be the guide and not a falsely weighted "average".

[Piamed]

i've got no problems with health consultants and E and A staff earning the top wages, with the stress of the job, what price can you put on saving someone's life

as for ebay,' People making the odd trade online to get rid of unwanted Christmas presents or personal possessions are not considered traders, says Hartlib. But anyone who is specifically buying goods to sell for a profit online, making items to sell and make a profit, selling or buying goods on behalf of others for a commission, or providing a service and receiving payment in cash or in kind is trading.' and i think you need to tell the tax man

I agree, People that save lives are worth more than their weighting gold. My work involves ensuring that new drugs don't kill the patients they are prescribed to once licensed. Does that count? If so, I'll tell my boss.

I think your right about the sales section including shop workers and remeber a lot of sales people actually have low salaries its all commision.

Many sales people i know all ways plead poverty and have alsorts of ways of getting paid which reduce the way its declared to the tax office.

That's a good point. It says this figure relate to earnings but i am uncertain whether it takes commission into account. I'm always look for ways to reduce my tax. It's totally ridiculous at the best of times. I hate looking at deduction lines on my pay slip.

£264? Where did they get that figure from. If I worked full-time at Morris's Son, I would NOT get that.

Most retailers pay either National Minimum or a few pence above it (Morris's son is a good example). The retailer I work for now is paying 30p above National Minimum, which is way above the norm in the retail sector, with a 20p rise per hour coming in October.

Is that how the name Morrison's was derived? I just learned something - it does make sense though.

Good advice im surprised how few people at work even in a fast moving and everchanging industry like the one im in. Just dont bother keeping up to date with existing skils and even more importantly learning new ones.

Also keep up to date with the direction the industry you work in is moving and see what skills employees will need. Better to be proactive and help yourself than wait for someone to train you up.

The more skills and usefulness you have to company the more they will wnat to hold on to you.
Companies are there to earn a return for their owners, if employees or areas of the business dont make them money and bring no other benefits to the company they will try and get rid of them. One of the easist ways to get rid of people (in the morden working enviroment) is to not pay them rises and make them not feel wanted or as Andy says lay them off.

Its worth sitting down and looking at what you bring to the table for your employer or prospective employer and seeing how you can make your self more indisposable or attractive to them.


Some of the people i meet or know of already when i discover how they got their current very nice job many have put in a lot of hours of study and carry on doing so.

Your never to old to learn or change

Too true. I have my eye on China currently and am learning Chines (very slowly). Given the population, increasing wealth, and changing regulatory environment it will be so many times more influential than India has become in terms of raw material supply, drug manufacture, new product development and clinical testing.

Thanks mate for the information. £25k seems a little high for an individual, looking at some of my friends here.

I think certain sectors and regional differences strongly temper these trends.

Western Union only....accounts in Nigeria

What is it with you and Nigeria?

Just a minute, this is beginning to sound familiar now... was it you that sold me the deeds to a biofuel quarry in Western Sahara?

I guess as Toks mentioned, the median should be the guide and not a falsely weighted "average".

I agree!

[jane82]

Man that's a shocking amount of working hours/wk.

Do you receive much vacation for working 70 hours per week?

[andy17]

Man that's a shocking amount of working hours/wk.

Do you receive much vacation for working 70 hours per week?

I don't know about Toks, but I rarely take my full 5 week allowance. The company travel part does have its perks though, when in the US I get weekends away (in Maine on the beach last weekend) - skiing weekends in winter in New Hampshire, or when I go to China, I usually do some travel to other countries, Japan etc. The long hours plays havoc with social life and body clock!

How about you Toks?
Andy

[Piamed]

I don't know about Toks, but I rarely take my full 5 week allowance. The company travel part does have its perks though, when in the US I get weekends away (in Maine on the beach last weekend) - skiing weekends in winter in New Hampshire, or when I go to China, I usually do some travel to other countries, Japan etc. The long hours plays havoc with social life and body clock!

How about you Toks?
Andy

Ditto Andy. I get weekends in great locations too. I had a series of European meetings recently. My boss happened to be over from the US and we spent a couple of days in Dijon sampling fine wines, doing tours and enjoying excellent cuisine.

Because I often work weekends etc when I take a few days off it rarely comes out of my entitlement. I have not had any formal leave so far this year. In fact, even when I do have days off I do work anyway. I have not taken my full holiday entitement for years. That will change though now that Pia will be here. My marriage comes first and having adequate time together is important to me. My pc will no longer be by my bed with me waking up to check emails etc.

The nice thing is that my company expects the best people it can employ to work hard but also values family. Thus, it is common to see wives and gfs of employees milling around the hotel during conferences and joining us for corporate dinners, etc.

I have drastically reduced my travelling for the time being. I hit platinum status this year in 3 months travelling economy to primarily European destinations. Phew!! I have not travelled on business since June 26th and wont do so until it is absolutely necessary and Pia is settled. Even then i will try to make them EU day trips for now.