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    If somebody wants to believe in something then let them. When they start to interfere in other peoples lives is when it causes problems.

    Organised religion is nothing more than a form of oppression to keep those without power in 'their place'. Don't rock the boat or envy our riches and you will get your reward in the 'afterlife'. It is simply about control. The so called pagan religions are as valid as christianity/islam/buddhism etc. Humanity has always wanted an explanation of how the world was created. No religious theory has any more credibility than any other.

    If the church is open to everybody why are they locked most of the time.

    The church of England is one of the richest organisations in the country but still puts its hand out for others to pay for repairs to churches and cathedrals.

    How many poor priests/vicars do you see?

    When people see through them the world will be a better place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    If the church is open to everybody why are they locked most of the time.
    Because scousers nick the shiny stuff
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    First of all Im not a Catholic. Im a Protestant. Me personally I don't believe in religion bec religion won't make you a better person or better husband/wife. To filipinos here saying that they don't see any problem their partner doesn't believe in GOD (yes, bec you chose them to be your partner despite of your different belief bec they said filipinos are good in learning to adapt). How about your children one day saying to you Mum I don't believe in GOD bec there no such thing as GOD. hope you can still adapt.

    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.

    To all the filipinos here I really adore your stand about it. I hope and pray that GOD will guide you and give you strength to carry on. Pagpalain nawa kayo

    To all Brits here I hope you don't get me wrong on this topic. I do respect your stand on this issue I know this is a no-win situation. I respect everyone's beliefs

    Peace everyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
    How about your children one day saying to you Mum I don't believe in GOD bec there no such thing as GOD. hope you can still adapt.

    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.
    if my kids said that, it would not bother me one bit, i'll let them find their own way.. i don't think you should force your religion on your kids.

    me and the misses don't have a problem, because i still have morals that i live by, maybe more so than many church-goers, and having a 'faith' would not make me a better person than i am already.

    so i respect your faith, but in my eyes, your no worse or better person than me because of it, i just don't like seeing it forced on kids .

    as my misses told me today, 'when you become catholic, your one for life' or

    and peace to you


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.
    You'll never know until you get there

    Peace
    Don't make promises when you are in JOY. Don't reply when you are SAD.
    Don't take decisions when you are ANGRY. Think twice, Act wise. BE happy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurokuk View Post
    You'll never know until you get there

    Peace

    I will never get there


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.

    To all the filipinos here I really adore your stand about it. I hope and pray that GOD will guide you and give you strength to carry on. Pagpalain nawa kayo

    Peace everyone.
    Please don't quote "Peace everyone" when you have inflexibility in your attitude to other people.
    You appear to be intolerant of other peoples' beliefs.
    This is such a lack of respect for others.
    This is one of the main reasons that the majority of people in the UK have turned away from religion.

    Peace: "freedom from conflict or disagreement among people or groups of people"

    In your first post you wrote:
    " I don't condemed people being Atheist"
    then you wrote:
    "I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am"

    Now, how do you equate those two comments?


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    In your first post you wrote:
    " I don't condemed people being Atheist"
    then you wrote:
    "I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am"

    Now, how do you equate those two comments?
    You're suggesting that by not living with them, Cheezewhiz is condemning the athiests?

    As I see it, everyone is free to adopt their own beliefs (or non-beliefs), but I would not choose to marry someone whose beliefs were not similar to my own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterB View Post
    You're suggesting that by not living with them, Cheezewhiz is condemning the athiests?

    As I see it, everyone is free to adopt their own beliefs (or non-beliefs), but I would not choose to marry someone whose beliefs were not similar to my own.
    true ,

    but i have problems understanding what other peoples beliefs are

    beliefs similar to yours, which are ? there is one god ?, because of that you wouldn't marry someone, more to life and a person than that


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    Religion, or lack of belief should not be used as an excuse to lead a miserable life.

    Some of us choose to believe in something, some others don't.
    It is matter of choice really, and letting religion come in between relationships or friendships, will obviously cause a lot of aggro.

    If we respect each other's views, and refrain from trying to convert our partners, life will be much easier for everyone concerned.

    It is of very little value to state not to marry someone just because he/she has different beliefs from your own.
    It is love for the person that counts.

    Does this make any sense to anyone...????


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Please don't quote "Peace everyone" when you have inflexibility in your attitude to other people.
    You appear to be intolerant of other peoples' beliefs.
    This is such a lack of respect for others.
    This is one of the main reasons that the majority of people in the UK have turned away from religion.

    Peace: "freedom from conflict or disagreement among people or groups of people"

    In your first post you wrote:
    " I don't condemed people being Atheist"
    then you wrote:
    "I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am"

    Now, how do you equate those two comments?
    what's wrong with that statement? I can't see any problem with that? as a Christian who believes with the existence of GOD marrying or living with someone who doesn't share same belief as me won't work and by saying that I am not condeming any atheist. And a few people here trying to say that people who believe in imaginary thing consider as MAD ( do you think that's way of condeming people with faith in GOD?)

    Then you have a problem with me saying PEACE EVERYONE. In what way this words are offensive to people in UK and disrespectful?

    I am not in any way trying to convert you to christianity bec I respect you as atheist. Peace be with you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
    what's wrong with that statement? I can't see any problem with that? as a Christian who believes with the existence of GOD marrying or living with someone who doesn't share same belief as me won't work and by saying that I am not condeming any atheist. And a few people here trying to say that people who believe in imaginary thing consider as MAD ( do you think that's way of condeming people with faith in GOD?)

    Then you have a problem with me saying PEACE EVERYONE. In what way this words are offensive to people in UK and disrespectful?

    I am not in any way trying to convert you to christianity bec I respect you as atheist. Peace be with you!
    You cannot convert me to christianity, because Christ did not exist.
    If he did, prove it.
    If God exists, prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    You cannot convert me to christianity, because Christ did not exist.
    If he did, prove it.
    If God exists, prove it.
    you said many many many times christ doesn't exist so for me that's the end of conversation why should I waste my time proving something to you as they said you can't teach an old dog a new trick...live your life the way you want it and I'll do same too. Peace!


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