Scousers and Geordies.... don't shake their hands

[cruisingkerry]

doctors and nurses in hospitals which ignore the alcohol dispensers in hospitals, and in general hospitals are the dirtiest places. Only places which are clean are the managment and admin areas

I get so angry when i see the state of Hospitals and its all the easy to do things which are ignored


All they need are busy body sisters and matrons to say oi no get that out of here, not a spreadsheet artist.

To be honest with you as a nurse I get pretty sick and tired of my profession getting the blame for this kind of thing.
Visitors to hospitals come in with dirty clothes on, dont' wipe their feet, sit on the beds, disrespect and dismiss nurses, leave garbage laying around and then think they're doing a good job if they use alcohol gel on their hands that haven't been washed since they got up that morning.

And they are totally blameless.......

if you look at the hands of most nurses they are dry and chapped from washing their hands probably 40-50 times in a shift. We know that the alcohol gels are only effective on clean hands thats why we ignore them because we wash our hands properly with soap and water for at least 15-20 seconds, as recommended.

Stop with the medical profesional bashing I say..... we shouldn't be blaming any one just educating people.

Oh yeah, and stop asking for antibiotics when they aren't needed, thats probably one of the biggedst reasons for resistant infections. Trust you docgtor or nurse to tell you when you need antibiotics, after all thats why we've done years of training.

K xx

[KeithD]

To be honest with you as a nurse I get pretty sick and tired of my profession getting the blame for this kind of thing.
Visitors to hospitals come in with dirty clothes on, dont' wipe their feet, sit on the beds, disrespect and dismiss nurses, leave garbage laying around.....

That's what I keep telling everyone. Each time someone walks through the front door all the bugs come back in.

It has been this way since the first hospital, dead folk in hospitals used to be classed as 'Death Unknown', but now we have names for it since we discovered these bugs.

It is not that these bugs have got stronger, or just appeared, it is our own immune systems that have been dummed down with decades of cleanliness......hence 'Kills 99% of germs' products is one way to give you kids allergies

[andypaul]

To be honest with you as a nurse I get pretty sick and tired of my profession getting the blame for this kind of thing.
Visitors to hospitals come in with dirty clothes on, dont' wipe their feet, sit on the beds, disrespect and dismiss nurses, leave garbage laying around and then think they're doing a good job if they use alcohol gel on their hands that haven't been washed since they got up that morning.

And they are totally blameless.......

if you look at the hands of most nurses they are dry and chapped from washing their hands probably 40-50 times in a shift. We know that the alcohol gels are only effective on clean hands thats why we ignore them because we wash our hands properly with soap and water for at least 15-20 seconds, as recommended.

Stop with the medical profesional bashing I say..... we shouldn't be blaming any one just educating people.

Oh yeah, and stop asking for antibiotics when they aren't needed, thats probably one of the biggedst reasons for resistant infections. Trust you docgtor or nurse to tell you when you need antibiotics, after all thats why we've done years of training.

K xx

I spent part of today and yesterday in a major london Hospital and saw several consultants walk from an a and e ward past countless gel bottles even sinks and though into another ward area the otherside of a corridor.

I also saw nurses walk in and out of a ward for babies icu in another block and staff walk in and out of the secure area, handle goods from outside and pc keyboards never once cleaning their hands.

I know of in another london intensive care unit equipment our company provides which many of our engineers have commented to managment and staff inthe hospital that its not healthy to be less than 10 ft from a adult intensive care ward bed. We asked the managment and we offered to resite equipment for free (several Engineers offered to come in whenever as it upset them so much due to family experiences). The suits were not intrested it meant people from their side had to be involved. They are still in the same place. The engineers from our firm and others are allowed in with outside clothes, ours and others health and safety people went in to find out what our staff should do. Again nothing.
Yet if you go in to the Hospitals research areas procedures and the clothing we would be required to wear is down to the last thickness of the glove.
It seems we care more about labs than humans.

I also notice printers and Photocopiers in a filthy state bleching out toner and paper dust in areas where people have open wounds major incidence wards, ICU wards. These devices dont need to be in the same area its just for convenice. like many of the other equipment used in these areas i never seen them looking clean or cleaned, yet are touched by staff who are dealing with these patients no sink or gel station is gone near in the route between.

Its the lack of example i see and the dirty condtions that shock me.

I see this with my own eyes, i dont pick it up in the daily mail

I dont wish to insult anyone it just makes me angry. Im far from perfect.

When I see and hear audi visual reminders at three major hospital sites saying all should take proper precautions and follow procedures and they dont. When you follow in medical staff who walk in from the outside I see little washing or changing of clothes going on.

You see boxes lying near medical areas,patients and staff which I know were delivered to a goods in where the same staff stack up the waste and rubbish for collection when not accepting the parcels which come in. Again seen it with my own eyes.
Seen in out of bound areas medical supplies on pallets next to waste bins in corridors in the Basement areas of a Major large hospital.

I dont blame the staff many complain along with me and others about the condtions. But the managment have never wanted to work with us to ensure higher standards so I think i can see where the problem arises with spreadsheet shufflers rather than people trying to do the Job.

Only time i have had Antibiotics once in my memory and that was due to an infection of a mosie bite i picked up in da phills.