regarding to my age being 18.............i can marry here anytime in the phil but cant go to the uk yet until i get 21 of age............so its a worst to hear if this be the case
as same matters i dont have the chance for fiancee visa too
is the changes of rules in the uk already constant
Originally Posted by rutchzzz143
so what will i do sis.........i dont have the chance to apply for a fiancee or spousal visa?
10 December 2008
New immigration rules came into force on 27 November 2008. They raise from 18 to 21 the minimum age at which a person may sponsor, or may be granted, entry clearance (including visas) or limited leave as the spouse, civil partner, fiancé(e), proposed civil partner, unmarried partner or same-sex partner of another person.
This reform is aimed at tackling the problem of forced marriage. We believe it to be important to protect young people from being forced into relationships they do not want at a time in their lives when they could be establishing a degree of independence as an adult through further education or through work. We believe that raising the age will provide an opportunity for individuals to develop maturity and life skills and to complete their education. It may also allow them to resist the pressure of being forced into a marriage. It will delay sponsorship for marriage until the age of 21 and allow vulnerable young people an opportunity to seek help and advice.
As a limited concession, the change in minimum age to 21 will apply only to cases where the UK-based sponsor is present and settled in the UK, or is being admitted for settlement on the same occasion as the applicant.
The minimum age of 18 will continue to apply to sponsors and their partners in those cases where the stay of a sponsor is subject to a time-limit (for example, students, work permit holders).
This is from the UK Border Agency Website.
Rutch...I don't think they will change this NEW Rule anytime soon. So I guess your options are to wait till you are 21 before you apply for a Fiance or Spousal Visa or you can try and apply for a Tourist Visa but make sure that you provide ALL necessary documents and study well why you were denied before.
You cannot marry anytime in the Philippines if you are 18!!!
No Priests, no Civil authorties will conduct your marriage unless
YOU have parental consent.
You cannot apply for any type of visa until you reached 21. If you have relative here, they can sponsor you for a visit visa but not the BF
So be patient. Enjoy being single. Study first so if you have studied even short courses, you can easily find job here. Did you know that even college graduate here are hard to get a proper job? That is if you want to work and help your hubby as everything here is shocking expensive.
This isn't true, BFs can and have successfully sponsored their GF for visit visa. Though there is no guarantees it wil be granted.If you have relative here, they can sponsor you for a visit visa but not the BF
18 years old......
Visa chances........ Nil.....
Next.............
and if you mention you want to see your b/f, there is a chance they will refuse you, because the embassy can say that's a major reason for not going back to the phils, as you have a b/f here..
you just can't win sometimes ..
but you could try for a visitor visa, thou it could well be refused and you could only stay 6 months in 1 yr
student visa you could try, but expensive and they are more difficult to get now, as it is points based.
but maybe your only hope, apart from waiting til your 21, is you get married, your husband then exercises his EU Treaty Rights in another EU country for a few months, and then uses the Surinder Singh route to return to the UK. After all there is nothing about the age 21 issue in the EU Directive, concerning freedom of movement for EU citizens and their family members.
In order to use the Surinder Singh route, your husband, as he would be, would need to be economically active in another EU state ..... employed or self-employed. if he could go and live in Ireland for a few months or longer until you get your family permit, and then you could come to the uk.
what if we will be marry here soon this year by september 2009
for the reason im on my age 18 so no chance to get a spousal visa till im at the age of 21......sooooooooooooi still have to wait for about 3 yrs to come b4r i reach 21 right?
so being a wife already i maybe can apply for a tourist visa temporarily
for the reason to come and visit my hubby and family
as my frnd did last year she is so succesful in getting visa at the age of 18 she is married in phil also w/ her british hubby.......but she came back to phil after 6 months
so myt be i have the chance to apply as tourist visa successfully???????????
3 years of waiting is a very long time
yes sunshine
its too long time to wait till i can apply for spousal visa if be married here soon
soosoooooo
but maybe i can apply for tourist visa also
and then maybe have to sort for my degree more here being at my age while waiting
god's will
have to go in some agency by monday too
to ask for proff why they telling me and my fiancee that at the age of 18 it is still applicable for marriage visa to come in the uk
as i read in site its says different
emmmmmmmmmmmmm ill see wat lies a mess
but maybe your only hope, apart from waiting til your 21, is you get married, your husband then exercises his EU Treaty Rights in another EU country for a few months, and then uses the Surinder Singh route to return to the UK. After all there is nothing about the age 21 issue in the EU Directive, concerning freedom of movement for EU citizens and their family members.what if we will be marry here soon this year by september 2009
for the reason im on my age 18 so no chance to get a spousal visa till im at the age of 21......soooooooooooo
so being a wife already i maybe can apply for a tourist visa temporarily
for the reason to come and visit my hubby and family
as my frnd did last year she is so succesful in getting visa at the age of 18 she is married in phil also w/ her british hubby.......but she came back to phil after 6 months
so myt be i have the chance to apply as tourist visa successfully???????????
In order to use the Surinder Singh route, your husband, as he would be, would need to be economically active in another EU state ..... employed or self-employed. if he could go and live in Ireland for a few months or longer until you get your family permit, and then you could come to the uk.
the only other way is your husband goes and lives in ireland, spain , etc for 6months and applies for a family permit for you
Even if 18 yrs old only???????? I'm on about 18
I know they can sponsor if above 21
as embassy also protects teeners
ask your b/f is it possible,or is he willing to go and live in another european country for maybe upto 6 months,
if he's not, then their is not much else you can do but wait 3 years or try for a student visa.
I WILL TRY AND CONSULT HIM IF HE CAN DO IN THAT OR IF HE IS INFAVOR OF SUCH ENDEVOURS LIKE THAT STAYING IN DIFF PART IN EUROPE AS HE HAVE WORK IN SAMLEBURY,ENGLAND SO IT MYT TOOK HIM A CONFLICTS IN DISTANCE GOING INTO THE PLACES
IS IT FAR TO STAY IN IRELAND OR ANY EUROPE PART.......
SOOO AS YOU SAYING JOEBLOGGS............EVEN WEN WE GET MARRIED HERE IN PHIL
THEN IF WE APPLY FOR A STUDENT VISA FOR ME TO COME IN THE UK AND HE WILL BE THE SPONSOR
WOULDNT IT BE SUSPICIOUS BY THE EMBASSY AS HE GONNA BE MY HUSBAND THEN HE TOOK ME INTO STUDENT VISA
WHAT MYT THEY THINK OF..............
yes it would look suspicious and it would be expensive..
and 3 years is a long time to wait, many LDRs would not survive it
so your choices are he goes and lives in the phils with you or he moves to a european country or you wait 3 years..
or you apply for a visitor visa and hope you get one, allowing you t ocome to the uk for 6 months a year..
With fiance/marriage visas you have to be over 21, but I don't think that you have to be over 21 to apply for a tourist visa.Even if 18 yrs old only???????? I'm on about 18
I know they can sponsor if above 21
as embassy also protects teeners
no you don't, but over 21 to apply for a settlement visa.
ok. I hope she can get oneAs I have never heard of any applicant granted visa for 18 years old girlfriend
I still remember and have seen applicants who applied tourist visa and denied. They were crying outloud outside the embassy. Really I feel sorry for them as they really want to go.
ok. I hope she can get one
I still remember and have seen applicants who applied tourist visa and denied. They were crying outloud outside the embassy. Really I feel sorry for them as they really want to go.
BEEN SORRY TO MYSELF ALSO LAST FEB 2009 ME AND MY FIANCEE WE APPLY IN THE UK BRITISH EMBASSY/VFS FOR TOURIST VISA
BUT JUST BEEN DENIED...............AND ITS MISLACK OF INFORMATIONSAS THEY ARE TELLING ME AND MY FIANCEE THAT VISA IS VALID VIA EMAILS,TXT AND VISA TRACKING RESULTS ONLINE TOO..................
SO ASSUMING AT THAT TIME VISA IS 100% GRANTED......SO MY FIANCEE PURCHASED A FLIGHT FOR ME TO COME TO THE UK STRAIGHT WHEN I PICKED UP MY VISA IN THE VFS MANILA.................BUT ITS SUCH SO WORSTEWHY I NEVER BEEN TOLD THE REAL RESULTS.........BUT JUST WEN IM ALREADY IN THE PLACE.........SO I WENT OUT THE VFS IN TEARS.....AND SO STRESSES AND DEPRESSED AT THAT TIME MY FIANCEE KEEPS ME CALLING AS WELL....................
SO ABOUT MY FLIGHT TO COME TO THE UK IT COST FOR ME OVER 60 000+PH BUT AFTER IT WASNT ABLE TO USED SO FLIGHT CANCELL SO NO CHOOICE WE DIDNT GET ANY REFUND ALSO EVEN A CENTAVO..............
DAMN ITS JUST LIKE THROWING THE MONEY IN THE GARBAGE CAN
BUT UNFORTUNATELY.........MY FIANCEE HAVING AN APPEAL IN THE LONDON NOW SO STILL WAIITNG FOR ANY RESULTS
BUT WE DONT HOPE IT TO MUCH RIGHT NOW BUT TO LOOK BACK THE BETTER
THIS IS OUR APPEALING LETTER AS WHEN I GET MY VISA RESULTS AND NOTICED PAPERS..........ALMOST ALL MY DOCUMENTS AND MY FIANCEE HAD PASSED THERE WERENT ARENT RETURN BACK TO ME
ARE ALL THEY DOING RIGHT?
xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
xx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blackpool
Lancs
xxxxxxx
2nd April 2009
To the A&I Tribunal,
With regards to a visa application, which was recently submitted to the Manila VFS Global centre in Makati? I have been together with the lady involved, and have been waiting for a response for her to be either accepted or rejected as a visitor coming to the UK.
Having had confirmation through their web site pages that the visa has been processed and also by txt on Routchil’s phone as stipulated when submitted the application, Routchil has traveled from Cebu to Manila to claim the visa as informed on both accounts.
When she arrived there, she was told that the visa was not going to be issued to her, and this has caused ripple effect along the line of coming here to the UK. Through this information given to both of us, With this in mind, I purchased a flight ticket for her to have the next day in coming, as returning back to Cebu seemed pointless and then return again back for her flight at a different time. We assumed all was fine and all that was needed was to pick up the visa from the VFS and get the plane to fly here to the UK.
Since speaking to me about this ordeal, Routchil has been in tears as to what to do next. If I had known that the visa was not to be issued, I would not have bought the airline ticket (See attachments) for Routchil to come over here. Also, when I rang the VFS, I realized that who ever gave the information to Routchil was in fact incorrect. I feel I have been misinformed & so does Routchil on this. It has not been a good 24 hrs for both of us.
The knock back, of not receiving the visa, is not an issue with me but the information that one person tells you something and you trust the information on the webpage being correct. This is a misunderstanding to say the least on the webpage and txt to be something else.
All in all, it has set me back £1000.00 pounds in transport costs for this mishap to have happened. If this had been dealt with in a proper manner, with the correct information sent out explaining the circumstances of why the visa had not been issued, might then, have been able to re-address certain issues and mishaps instead of believing that we were to be granted a visa.
I do not even know why after 30 days the application has in fact been rejected, even though I have read the wording from Mr. Mustafa’s comments, but all I know from my conversations with the VFS supervision (See email attachment) that Maria Madrilejo also wanted to know who had made this dreadful mistake and wanted us to tell her know who it was. Routchil did not know when she came to pick up the visa this man in question was who summoned her. By the time this letter has been processed through the Asylum & Immigration Tribunal area, will be too late to solve this issue.
I have built up a very good and friendly relationship with Routchil and of which we have spent time in her country. I was hoping she would be able to reply here and see just what a good nation we are living in. After this, I am not so sure my faith in humanity here is all it should be.
I appeal to you and your sense of judgment, that you can see what has gone on here and reinstate the visa for Routchil.
I have enclosed the information required below and also an email from a representative from the VFS clarifying the position of the misunderstanding:-
Sent to: VFS Global Centre, Makati, Manila
Name: xxxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxxx
DofB: 07/01/1991
Applying for: Visitors visa
Sent to: 16th February 2009 of application
VFS Global Ref. No. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Things that were presented to the VFS in Manila but never received back when Routchil went to collect her documents:-
1) Wage slip
2) Utility bills
3) Deeds to my house
4) Pictures of us together in Manila
5) Emails & correspondences
6) Invitation Letter from me for Routchil to spend time with me, as stipulated in the VAF1A requirements.
7) Original Birth Certificate of Routchil Gealon
Things we did receive back were her passport and the ticket for paying for the visa from the bank.
Because Routchil was not given all the documents back from the VFS, I have only a copy of the Invitation which was submitted at the time at hand. I have to stress that Mr. Mustafa, who is the Entry Clearance Officer is looking at our case from the documents provided here. From his deductions, I feel he is not aware of the full facts or that he has not been given all the information to deduce his assumptions on Routchil. All the information he has referred to has been substantiated in my documents given to the VFS at the time.
I stress, that from sections i ii iii of the ruling of paragraph 41 of the Immigration laws should incomprehensively be discharged as lack of evidence to support Mr. Mustafa’s foundations in arriving towards Rouchil Gealon. That I Graham Smith have stated in my Invitation letter that all of the above will in fact be adhered to accordingly. If there are other things that are driving this decision here, I would like to be informed of. My intentions here are for Routchil to come here and spend 6 months as a visitor.
I am not a man who breaks the law and if things are not correct, am first to try and put things in perspective. I appeal to your better judgment & hope you can come to an amicable decision on this. Additional to the information is that Routchil has been working in the family business and provided are details of her employment (See attachments)
SUMMARY of APPEAL
I have provided an invitation letter here and all others documents are with the VFS.
The misinformation of txt message and webpage stating, that our application had now been accepted and ready to be picked up.
The airfare of which I based this information on, as to why would I have gone out and bought a ticket for Routchil and why would she have also travelled to Manila knowing that she was going to be disappointed on arrival.
The email I received from Maria Madrilejo the supervisor stated, and of which now, since speaking with her directly has in fact rescinded her statement to me and told us that our visa has now been rejected.
My bank details, utility bills, house ownership, wage slip has been confiscated and not returned back to us
If Routchil has been seen to have committed a crime here from being thorough and working within the documents UK Border Agency has provided and also the VAFA1 form, much as I hate to mention that I appeal again to your logical thinking in this matter and if your decision is still to reject her invite to the UK, please explain to me what we have to abide by in order to think further and hopefully not come across another and expense again.
Yours Sincerely
xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sponcer of xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asylum and Immigration Tribunal
Tribunals Group Customer Service Centre,
PO Box 7866
Loughborough LE11 2 XZ
United Kingdom
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