Barrio Festival no 21 16/17th July 2005

[love8888]

Originally posted by ginapeterb@Jul 21 2005, 01:12 PM
Well what can we say...whats your point ? are you criticizing the fact that we may just want to make one or two valid points about the Barrio Fiesta, love8888 what point are you trying to make ? no one is saying that Filipino Nurses do not have a right to be in this country, Im sure they all pass stringent interviews and comply with our Immigration rules, have we ever said here on this forum, that they havent ? if you are referring to illegal immigration, that is true, there are over 500,000 people here illegally, for you to suggest that British workers are abusive, and lazy, to quote your comments, is a rather rash statement, and to suggest further that they do not have inititative or heart, is highly subjective, and what evidence do you posess to back up your claim ?

I am sure the British people will thank you for your rhetoric and incredible claims about them, but if you are living in the UK, and working in our country, then good luck to you, we are happy that you are, but please, try to refrain from dragging down our country and way of life, if you are not satisfied with our country, you may always seek to return to your own, no one is holding you here are they ? how would you feel if I said..Filipinos are corrupt, thieves and Robbers !!! they are stupid, ..its not nice to say that is it, how could I say that, since so many of my freinds are Filipino's my Aunts Uncles and cousins are all Filipino's, so come on Love888 stop generalizing and come back with a decent contribution.

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Well thank you for your comment that filipinos are Filipinos are corrupt, thieves and Robbers !!! I respect your openion,and besides this forum i believe is feel free to write what you seen, read and experienced.


And I am not dragging your country down? INfact I am very proud that this country has a nature.Wacth the BBC/Panorama and see how the old people treathened

[ginapeterb]

Originally posted by love8888@Jul 22 2005, 04:18 AM
Well thank you for your comment that filipinos are Filipinos are corrupt, thieves and Robbers !!! I respect your openion,and besides this forum i believe is feel free to write what you seen, read and experienced.
And I am not dragging your country down? INfact I am very proud that this country has a nature.Wacth the BBC/Panorama and see how the old people treathened

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Love888 I understand your concerns about how elderly people are treated, I think you are referring to the BBC Panorama undercover programme this week, Im not denying that is true, but the reason you know about this, is because the BBC is not censored and is impartial in its reporting, as we have a state funded national health service from general taxation, some NHS Trusts are more efficient than others, this is only to be expected,

Wacth the BBC/Panorama and see how the old people treathened

I totally agree with you, the treatment was scandalous, however, it is a matter for the Director of the Royal Sussex Hospital to sort out, it is not representative of the whole country, we cannot generalize about treatment in a socially funded healthcare system, that would be easy to do would it not.

As far as Filipinos are concerned, please could you refrain from misquoting me

Well thank you for your comment that filipinos are Filipinos are corrupt, thieves and Robbers !!!

Again I did not say that, I merely said, how would you feel if I did ? of course everyone on this Forum knows who I am, and what I stand for, I am a cosmopolitan Londoner, who lives among 200 nationalities, I have countless Filipino acquaitances, my wife is Filipino, My Aunts and Uncles and cousins and relatives are Filipino.

I was merely making the point again, which i will do for you, that I do not generalize in nationality labels, Most Filipinos are good honest and decent people, however I have bumped into corrupt ones too, just be aware that in any society, there is good and bad.

Im sure when you examine this, you will find my post reasonable.

Thanks for listening

[pigsinspace]

That Panarama Programme was not representative of the entire Royal Sussex county Hospital..

My uncle died in Bailey ward in the Royal Sussex last sunday. BAiley is another elderly persons ward and the staff done as much as they could to help BUT they are very limited when there are only 2-3 nurses per ward.
The NHS needs to employ more auxilary (or helpers ) who can just clean and feed the elderly patients. as im sure we all know the elderly are more demanding than other patients. Also a problem in the Royal Sussex is the number of beds taken up by elderly patients who have no where else to go.

The guy seen shouting at the patient is actually an indian and not Filipino( he does not work there anymore)

There is major refurbishment going on in the Sussex as well so that did not make it look to good, there is a large modern tower (millenium wing) behind the old part of the hospital but that was not mentioned in the film,
all the film wants to do is make "good" television.

I know for a fact the "undercover nurse" could not look after 12 sick elderly patients on her own..

Asawa spoke to a couple of filipino nurses the day my uncle died and they said the hosptail is of a very good standard..
so level heads here it was only a tv programme made to shock.
how many hours of GOOD footage was left out?
One last point as for the staff eating the left over food what is the problem there? it will only go in the bin...

I have only the highest respect for the nursing staff at THe Royal Sussex County, they tried their best to care for my uncle and from what I could see all the other patients in his ward.

[walesrob]

But the Panorama programme does highlight some serious problems in our wards, and no amount of spin or dressing up can change this or how it appears. The simple truth is M-O-N-E-Y.

I was involved in hospital radio for years, and the number of times I heard "theres no money for this, no money for that" and the reliance on various charities in hospital was scandalous, and still is. Why are hospitals still relying on donations for the most basic stuff like for example for MRI scanners or kids playrooms? The situation is getting better, but it will take years to undo the damage done by succesive Tory governments.

You lot as so lucky in England to have a fully functioning hospital - here in Aberystwyth's Bronglais Hospital, most outpatients appointments for stuff like ENT, etc, take place in Carmarthen, 45 miles away, and theres even been threats to close the A&E. So lets see, the nearest A&E will be Carmarthen (again&#33, Newtown or Glan Clywd in Llandudno, all within a minimum 40 mile drive.

The big mistake hospitals are STILL (and this is down to the Blair governnment) making is employing Managers for this that and everything else. We pay these jumped up tarts to make decisions that anyone with common sense could make. Why?

There rant over! B)