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    You guys have been talking about dying, I'm absolutley convinced that there is no such thing as dying, we are not our bodies, we do not even exist in our bodies it just appears that way! The you that is you and the me that is me does not exist inside the body, in fact our bodies, the sun, the stars, the moon, EVERYTHING does not truly exist! Life is a holograph in very very high definition, it's like we are Lara Croft inside an all singing all dancing computer game!

    Fact of science!

    Of course, the computer game is just a load of spectacular graphics! And so too is Lara Croft!

    So where is the you that is you?

    Hmmmm




    There are 7 Planes Of Existance:

    7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
    6 — Plane of Forces
    5 — Astral Plane
    4 — Mental Plane
    3 — Too mysterious to describe.
    2 — Too mysterious to describe.
    1 — Too mysterious to describe.




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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel View Post
    You guys have been talking about dying, I'm absolutley convinced that there is no such thing as dying, we are not our bodies, we do not even exist in our bodies it just appears that way! The you that is you and the me that is me does not exist inside the body, in fact our bodies, the sun, the stars, the moon, EVERYTHING does not truly exist! Life is a holograph in very very high definition, it's like we are Lara Croft inside an all singing all dancing computer game!

    Fact of science!

    Of course, the computer game is just a load of spectacular graphics! And so too is Lara Croft!

    So where is the you that is you?

    Hmmmm



    Cool Nigel a man after my own demented heart (and mind)

    Multi-person pantheistic solipsism!

    That is what you just described.

    It's an interesting philosophy and one that I was quite convinced of when I was a lot younger, less convinced now

    However I will admit that there is emerging evidence to suggest that our universe is holographic but it's still very speculative

    The "me that is me" is right here right now, the "you that is you" may or may not exist, it is possible that I am the be all and end all of everything and you are but a dream, however I got older and I don't really care about all that any more, it's more important to be with the ones you love and to spend your life with your children.

    As a pure view of science and the "how" of the world rather than the "why", it is very valid interpretation.

    P.S.

    I didn't watch the vid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel View Post
    You guys have been talking about dying, I'm absolutley convinced that there is no such thing as dying, we are not our bodies, we do not even exist in our bodies it just appears that way! The you that is you and the me that is me does not exist inside the body, in fact our bodies, the sun, the stars, the moon, EVERYTHING does not truly exist! Life is a holograph in very very high definition, it's like we are Lara Croft inside an all singing all dancing computer game!

    Fact of science!

    Of course, the computer game is just a load of spectacular graphics! And so too is Lara Croft!

    So where is the you that is you?

    Hmmmm



    I have now watched the vid

    The dark brain stuff is semantic nonsense, the "BRAIN" includes your eyes they are connected part of the same organ, so the "BRAIN" experiences light directly, they are talking about processing not exprience.

    Also the "BRAIN" is not confined to your head this is a common misunderstanding because of people's tendency to compartmentalise stuff. Your "BRAIN" is really a network of fine sensors "neurones" that extend throughout our entire body. Your fingers your tongue and other bits are full of nerve cells that are directly connected to your processing centre otherwise known as the "BRAIN" so experience is not completely processed in one small space, who is to say that reality is not a result of all of the movements of chemicals and electrons inside a living organism?

    Solipsism is a powerful idea but it's not convincing as you get older


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimOttley View Post
    Also the "BRAIN" is not confined to your head this is a common misunderstanding because of people's tendency to compartmentalise stuff. Your "BRAIN" is really a network of fine sensors "neurones" that extend throughout our entire body. Your fingers your tongue and other bits are full of nerve cells that are directly connected to your processing centre otherwise known as the "BRAIN" so experience is not completely processed in one small space, who is to say that reality is not a result of all of the movements of chemicals and electrons inside a living organism?

    Solipsism is a powerful idea but it's not convincing as you get older
    I've only just noticed the two posts you put in this thread Jim...it's certainly nice to know that not everyone thinks I'm bnkers anyway!

    Thanks mate!

    There are 7 Planes Of Existance:

    7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
    6 — Plane of Forces
    5 — Astral Plane
    4 — Mental Plane
    3 — Too mysterious to describe.
    2 — Too mysterious to describe.
    1 — Too mysterious to describe.




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