Question about having children?

[keithAngel]

Well I think you should consider the child that you may be bringing into the world first.

A lot can change in the future.

Ask yourself if you could be parted from that child, and would it finish up living in poverty and without a father.
Could you live with that ?

If it were me (and it has been), I would not contemplate under any circumstances bringing a child into this world in such shaky circumstances.

Call me old-fashioned, but I also think it's only doing the decent thing to marry, and to give your offspring your surname and right to a British passport.

If you've been living in the Phils you'll realise that there are quite enough single mothers and children in poverty already.

I think based on the information Graham you are right when you say your a little old fashioned

I dont know if Kesters g/f is already married or if he might rather live with her for a while longer and register a civil partnership,and seek settlement that way,or indeed if they will ever have a child.

Any issue will have the right to a UK passport as long as he is on the Birthcertificate and can as a British Subject call themselves by whatever name they choose.

Not everyone believes or needs the institution of marriage although it may make dealings with the authorities easier

[grahamw48]

I think based on the information Graham you are right when you say your a little old fashioned

I dont know if Kesters g/f is already married or if he might rather live with her for a while longer and register a civil partnership,and seek settlement that way,or indeed if they will ever have a child.

Any issue will have the right to a UK passport as long as he is on the Birthcertificate and can as a British Subject call themselves by whatever name they choose.

Not everyone believes or needs the institution of marriage although it may make dealings with the authorities easier

Not everyone would want to be born a b*stard either....given the choice.

It may be trendy (after thousands of years of marriage being the norm throughout the world) not to commit to marriage, but as I've already suggested, perhaps respect for the life one is creating should be put before one's own selfish needs. After all, we're not talking about naive fumbling teenagers here.

Obviously I was aware of the position regarding the child's right to British nationality.

[gWaPito]

Not everyone would want to be born a b*stard either....given the choice.

It may be trendy (after thousands of years of marriage being the norm throughout the world) not to commit to marriage, but as I've already suggested, perhaps respect for the life one is creating should be put before one's own selfish needs. After all, we're not talking about naive fumbling teenagers here.

Obviously I was aware of the position regarding the child's right to British nationality.

I got it the first time Graham. Your point was, a moral responsibility not legal. Im with you Graham and I would hazard a guess, most of the membership are too.