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    Quote Originally Posted by sheldon1 View Post
    It would be highly unlikely for any employer to actually guarantee a yearly salary in this day and age.
    I do not understand this quote?

    A person is paid a basic salary and that may be topped up by overtime or shift work etc

    What the UKBA is looking for is the basic salary as you may not always be guarenteed overtime etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty View Post
    I do not understand this quote?

    A person is paid a basic salary and that may be topped up by overtime or shift work etc

    What the UKBA is looking for is the basic salary as you may not always be guarenteed overtime etc.
    What the ukba is looking for is any excuse to stamp a refusal on the application.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    What the ukba is looking for is any excuse to stamp a refusal on the application.
    I would like to think that is not the case.

    If you submit an application that covers all the requirements asked for, backed up with a well written letter of support detailing your particular circumstances, then they have no reason but to approve the application.

    Some of the refusals may be because of lack of evidence supplied, when they have to make a decision based on the information supplied, then they are more likely to refuse.

    I have not seen the statistics but from what I have read since on this forum, there are more approvals than refusals. This may change due to the new regulations, we will wait and see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty View Post
    I do not understand this quote?

    A person is paid a basic salary and that may be topped up by overtime or shift work etc

    What the UKBA is looking for is the basic salary as you may not always be guarenteed overtime etc.
    At the end of the day, the employer can't guarantee anyone a job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    At the end of the day, the employer can't guarantee anyone a job.

    No, but you should know what your basic salary is.

    When applying for a job you would see that the salary offered, for example, £12,000 per year. When you get your monthly payslip your gross salary would be £1000 then you may get overtime and/or bonuses then there would be deductions like tax and NI. What you take home is your net pay. If asked what the salary was, you would say £12,000.

    In some cases where the basic salary is below the requirement of £18,600 then the case has to be put that including any other benefits your salary would be above the requirement.

    Luckily I do not have to apply for a visa now as my wife is already here and therefore have not fully read the requirements for salary, but would expect that if your gross salary per year is above £18,600 the there should be no problems?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty View Post
    No, but you should know what your basic salary is.

    When applying for a job you would see that the salary offered, for example, £12,000 per year. When you get your monthly payslip your gross salary would be £1000 then you may get overtime and/or bonuses then there would be deductions like tax and NI. What you take home is your net pay. If asked what the salary was, you would say £12,000.

    In some cases where the basic salary is below the requirement of £18,600 then the case has to be put that including any other benefits your salary would be above the requirement.

    Luckily I do not have to apply for a visa now as my wife is already here and therefore have not fully read the requirements for salary, but would expect that if your gross salary per year is above £18,600 the there should be no problems?
    Same for me Rusty. Luckily my wife has her visa and is here now.

    Just out of curiosity, however, I have been wondering about a scenario whereby an example offshore oil worker earns no more than £18000 in basic pay and then gets a day rate bonus for every day that he works. There are many of these people about, easily clearing the gross requirement by possibly 200% but might only be earning just below the threshold in basic pay.

    On that footing, this kind of person wouldn't know how many days they would have worked in a year until after they had got to the end of the year. The only thing they could submit is their company drafted rates, their payslips and possibly a P60.

    I wonder how the UKBA would deal with this scenario, given the current regs....

    Sometimes bonuses can be a large part of ones gross pay.

    The problem seems to be that the UKBA appear to be ignoring bonus payments even though their blurb appears like bonuses are to be recognised. This is a perceived problem for some future applicants who are borderline and depend on bonuses to get them over the £18600 threshold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Same for me Rusty. Luckily my wife has her visa and is here now.

    Just out of curiosity, however, I have been wondering about a scenario whereby an example offshore oil worker earns no more than £18000 in basic pay and then gets a day rate bonus for every day that he works. There are many of these people about, easily clearing the gross requirement by possibly 200% but might only be earning just below the threshold in basic pay.

    On that footing, this kind of person wouldn't know how many days they would have worked in a year until after they had got to the end of the year. The only thing they could submit is their company drafted rates, their payslips and possibly a P60.

    I wonder how the UKBA would deal with this scenario, given the current regs....

    Sometimes bonuses can be a large part of ones gross pay.

    The problem seems to be that the UKBA appear to be ignoring bonus payments even though their blurb appears like bonuses are to be recognised. This is a perceived problem for some future applicants who are borderline and depend on bonuses to get them over the £18600 threshold.
    Would this person be classed as employed or self employed?

    If it is written in the contract of employment that this is how they are paid, then this can be submitted as additional evidence as well as the wage slips.

    Certain additions to salary, such as overtime, may not always be available every month and therefore may not be counted.

    In all cases, if you think there may be some confusion as to the salary, the correctly worded letter of support should include the details of how the salary is obtained.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty View Post
    Would this person be classed as employed or self employed?
    Employed and on PAYE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty View Post

    In all cases, if you think there may be some confusion as to the salary, the correctly worded letter of support should include the details of how the salary is obtained.
    Thats my way of thinking.

    I used to work on that basis about 7 years ago, for many years. And some months I wouldn't work at all and others I might work 21 days. It was never certain. But at the end of the year I always found that I will have worked between 150 to 200 days, easily clearing the annual salary "bar".


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    Hi to everyone. I just got married last 8th of August 2012 and I'm now preparing the documents for Spouse Visa Application. @ Leen or anyone who could help me regarding the wage of my husband. His annual salary is just £17,643.60 but he had overtime pay. His P60 2012 states that his salary is £27,925.50. Is his overtime pay can be added to his basic pay so that he can reach the £18,600 minimum wage requirement? Thanks


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