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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystica View Post
    On the other hand, I am now British and I have experienced this process.
    Most of us here have Mystica ....I see where you are coming from but, the fact is you are are no obligation to inform the Philippine Embassy

    I've never heard of there being a time scale for the Filipino to become dual?..Like Terpe asked, please forward that authoritive info if you are able to


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    Quote Originally Posted by gWaPito View Post
    Most of us here have Mystica ....I see where you are coming from but, the fact is you are are no obligation to inform the Philippine Embassy

    I've never heard of there being a time scale for the Filipino to become dual?..Like Terpe asked, please forward that authoritive info if you are able to
    There's no time scale if you want to be a dual citizen or not! but the original inquiry he made here is if his wife can travel using Philippine passport after taking the oath. In order to have dual Citizenship she also has to take an oath at the Philippine Embassy.

    CITIZENSHIP RETENTION AND RE-ACQUISITION

    “REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9225”

    Sec 1. SHORT TITLE — This Act shall be known as the "Citizenship Retention and Re-acquisition Act of 2003."

    Sec 2. DECLARATION OF POLICY - It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.

    Sec 3. RETENTION OF PHILIPPINE CITIZENSHIP - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizens of the Philippines who have lost their Philippine citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic:

    "I _________________, solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines and obey the laws and legal orders promulgated by the duly constituted authorities of the Philippines, and I hereby declare that I recognize and accept the supreme authority of the Philippines and will maintain true faith and allegiance thereto; and that I impose this obligation upon myself voluntarily without mental reservation or purpose of evasion."

    Natural-born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.

    Sec 4. DERIVATIVE CITIZENSHIP - The unmarried child, whether legitimate, illegitimate or adopted, below eighteen (18) years of age, of those who re-acquire Philippine citizenship upon effectivity of this Act shall be deemed citizens of the Philippines.

    Sec 5. CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS AND LIABILITIES - Those who retain or re-acquire Philippine citizenship under this Act shall enjoy full civil and political rights and be subject to all attendant liabilities and responsibilities under existing laws of the Philippines and the following conditions:

    Those intending to exercise their right of suffrage must meet the requirements under Sec. 1, Article V of the Constitution, Republic Act No. 9189, otherwise known as "The Overseas Absentee Voting Act of 2003" and other existing laws;
    Those seeking elective public office in the Philippines shall meet the qualifications for holding such public office as required by the Constitution and existing laws and, at the time of the filing of the certificate of candidacy, make a personal and sworn renunciation of any and all foreign citizenship before any public officer authorized to administer an oath;
    Those appointed to any public office shall subscribe and swear to an oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines and its duly constituted authorities prior to their assumption of office: provided, that they renounce their oath of allegiance to the country where they took that oath;
    Those intending to practice their profession in the Philippines shall apply with the proper authority for a license or permit to engage in such practice; and
    That right to vote or be elected or appointed to any public office in the Philippines cannot be exercised by, or extended to, those who:
    (a) are candidates for or are occupying any public office in the country of which they are naturalized citizens; and/or

    (b) are in active service as commissioned or non-commissioned officers in the armed forces of the country which they are naturalized citizens.

    Sec 6. SEPARABILITY CLAUSE - If any Sec. or provision of this Act is held unconstitutional or invalid, any other Sec. or provision not affected thereby shall remain valid and effective.

    Sec 7. REPEALING CLAUSE - All laws, decrees, orders, rules and regulations inconsistent with the provisions of this Act are hereby repealed or modified accordingly.

    Sec 8. EFFECTIVITY CLAUSE - This Act shall take effect after fifteen (15) days following its publication in the Official Gazette or two (2) newspapers of general circulation.

    http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?...=163&Itemid=83


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystica View Post
    ..“REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9225”

    Sec 1. SHORT TITLE — This Act shall be known as the "Citizenship Retention and Re-acquisition Act of 2003."

    Sec 2. DECLARATION OF POLICY - It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.
    I just added the highlighted section


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    I just added the highlighted section
    I'm going to have a lay down now


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    I just added the highlighted section
    Sec 2. . .DECLARATION OF POLICY - It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.

    Under the condition of this Act is referring to the section 3!

    It's okay! if you think you are giving a good advice good luck!

    My father is retired government staff and my Auntie works with immigration so if there are any laws that are not obvious for people which is the reason they are searching for answers here! Good luck!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystica View Post
    Sec 2. . .DECLARATION OF POLICY - It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.

    Under the condition of this Act is referring to the section 3!

    It's okay! if you think you are giving a good advice good luck!

    My father is retired government staff and my Auntie works with immigration so if there are any law that are not obvious for people which is the reason they are searching for answers here! Good luck!
    As written, the conditions of the act under section 3 related to those who
    ...have lost their Philippine citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country....

    The question is does the UK Oath cause the Philippine Citizen to lose their citizenship.

    With some countries, like USA, it clearly does and there's no argument about that.
    However does the wording of the UK oath cause loss of citizenship.

    The Philippine Government has never offered clarity.

    Actually, I think I'll have lay down too..... better still I'll go out for a sauna and swim.

    BTW I'm also retired government staff .....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystica View Post
    if his wife can travel using Philippine passport after taking the oath. In order to have dual Citizenship she also has to take an oath at the Philippine Embassy.
    Mystica No one is disputing one must swear on oath at a Philippine Embassy to regain FilipinoCitizenship

    What's in question here is whether one can legally travel back and forth to the Phils on a Filipino Passport after swearing an oath to the Crown ....You can


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystica View Post
    There's no time scale if you want to be a dual citizen or not! but the original inquiry he made here is if his wife can travel using Philippine passport after taking the oath. In order to have dual Citizenship she also has to take an oath at the Philippine Embassy.

    CITIZENSHIP RETENTION AND RE-ACQUISITION

    “REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9225”

    Sec 1. SHORT TITLE — This Act shall be known as the "Citizenship Retention and Re-acquisition Act of 2003."

    Sec 2. DECLARATION OF POLICY - It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens who become citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.

    Sec 3. RETENTION OF PHILIPPINE CITIZENSHIP - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizens of the Philippines who have lost their Philippine citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic:

    "I _________________, solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines and obey the laws and legal orders promulgated by the duly constituted authorities of the Philippines, and I hereby declare that I recognize and accept the supreme authority of the Philippines and will maintain true faith and allegiance thereto; and that I impose this obligation upon myself voluntarily without mental reservation or purpose of evasion."

    Natural-born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this Act, become citizens of a foreign country shall retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the aforesaid oath.

    Sec 4. DERIVATIVE CITIZENSHIP - The unmarried child, whether legitimate, illegitimate or adopted, below eighteen (18) years of age, of those who re-acquire Philippine citizenship upon effectivity of this Act shall be deemed citizens of the Philippines.

    Sec 5. CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS AND LIABILITIES - Those who retain or re-acquire Philippine citizenship under this Act shall enjoy full civil and political rights and be subject to all attendant liabilities and responsibilities under existing laws of the Philippines and the following conditions:

    Those intending to exercise their right of suffrage must meet the requirements under Sec. 1, Article V of the Constitution, Republic Act No. 9189, otherwise known as "The Overseas Absentee Voting Act of 2003" and other existing laws;
    Those seeking elective public office in the Philippines shall meet the qualifications for holding such public office as required by the Constitution and existing laws and, at the time of the filing of the certificate of candidacy, make a personal and sworn renunciation of any and all foreign citizenship before any public officer authorized to administer an oath;
    Those appointed to any public office shall subscribe and swear to an oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines and its duly constituted authorities prior to their assumption of office: provided, that they renounce their oath of allegiance to the country where they took that oath;
    Those intending to practice their profession in the Philippines shall apply with the proper authority for a license or permit to engage in such practice; and
    That right to vote or be elected or appointed to any public office in the Philippines cannot be exercised by, or extended to, those who:
    (a) are candidates for or are occupying any public office in the country of which they are naturalized citizens; and/or

    (b) are in active service as commissioned or non-commissioned officers in the armed forces of the country which they are naturalized citizens.

    Sec 6. SEPARABILITY CLAUSE - If any Sec. or provision of this Act is held unconstitutional or invalid, any other Sec. or provision not affected thereby shall remain valid and effective.

    Sec 7. REPEALING CLAUSE - All laws, decrees, orders, rules and regulations inconsistent with the provisions of this Act are hereby repealed or modified accordingly.

    Sec 8. EFFECTIVITY CLAUSE - This Act shall take effect after fifteen (15) days following its publication in the Official Gazette or two (2) newspapers of general circulation.

    http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?...=163&Itemid=83


    there is also NO time scale for a british citizen to have a british passport!!
    if i dont want to apply for a british passport straight away after my oath, nobody can force me!!
    ''Don't be serious..Be Sincere''


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