URGENT! What to do? Got refused !

[anvee]

The ECO didn't use your in law's documents because it wasn't them making the application!!.....it's simple to us but, to those pen pushers lateral thinking isn't permitted

Your in laws will need to make the application on your behalf

I didn't know that my parents in law will have to make the application on my behalf because it said in ukba website that i should be the applicant and just provide supporting documents ie invitation letter, proof of accommodation and bank statements WHICH THEY DID. So even if my husband and I dont have alot of money, my primary sponsors are my parents-in-law because theyre the ones we're visiting and accommodating/feeding me during my stay in the UK.

If they dont consider my in laws' documents then why would ukba website's supporting documents checklist included those? I am so confused :S.

From my understanding, it is my application.. under my name.. with my passport that they need to be stamped if I get the visa.

I am now confused but thank you anyways gwapito!

[gWaPito]

I didn't know that my parents in law will have to make the application on my behalf because it said in ukba website that i should be the applicant and just provide supporting documents ie invitation letter, proof of accommodation and bank statements WHICH THEY DID. So even if my husband and I dont have alot of money, my primary sponsors are my parents-in-law because theyre the ones we're visiting and accommodating/feeding me during my stay in the UK.

If they dont consider my in laws' documents then why would ukba website's supporting documents checklist included those? I am so confused :S.

From my understanding, it is my application.. under my name.. with my passport that they need to be stamped if I get the visa.

I am now confused but thank you anyways gwapito!

Don't be confused Juvee...you are right, it's your application in your name only..sorry .....I've not long woken

This is what happened with my mother in law....but, it was me filling our the application form for her from start to finish here in UK with the help of a Visa solicitor.

The ECO should of considered your in law's documents as they would of been the backbone of your Visa application

Goodness I've read your refusal letter again...you got to appeal againt this travesty Juvee

[anvee]

Don't be confused Juvee...you are right, it's your application in your name only..sorry .....I've not long woken

This is what happened with my mother in law....but, it was me filling our the application form for her from start to finish here in UK with the help of a Visa solicitor.

The ECO should of considered your in law's documents as they would of been the backbone of your Visa application

Goodness I've read your refusal letter again...you got to appeal againt this travesty Juvee

Haha thats funny, its okay! youre forgiven but you made me worried!!!!!

Anyways, Im glad that you are now agreeing with me, ECO should consider parents-in-laws documents as much as they considered Andrew's! because they are both my sponsors in the application form! I emailed them already and will wait for 48 hours to see if they reply, and then will email them over and over again until I became pain in their a**!!! hahaha

Unfortunately, applications under family visit visa are not entitled to appeal now! But I dont wanna give up because for me the decision was UNREASONABLE. So I will keep emailing them because I dont wanna spend my husband's hard earned £85 just because their ECO didnt read my 3 page cover letter answering everything that he stated "his concerns" in the refusal letter!

Okay, I have to help my husband chase kittens so we can feed them! BRB

[gWaPito]

Haha thats funny, its okay! youre forgiven but you made me worried!!!!!

Anyways, Im glad that you are now agreeing with me, ECO should consider parents-in-laws documents as much as they considered Andrew's! because they are both my sponsors in the application form! I emailed them already and will wait for 48 hours to see if they reply, and then will email them over and over again until I became pain in their a**!!! hahaha

Unfortunately, applications under family visit visa are not entitled to appeal now! But I dont wanna give up because for me the decision was UNREASONABLE. So I will keep emailing them because I dont wanna spend my husband's hard earned £85 just because their ECO didnt read my 3 page cover letter answering everything that he stated "his concerns" in the refusal letter!

Okay, I have to help my husband chase kittens so we can feed them! BRB

[Terpe]

...you got to appeal againt this travesty Juvee

Appeals are limited only to those I mentioned. Human rights or race discrimination grounds.

[gWaPito]

Appeals are limited only to those I mentioned. Human rights or race discrimination grounds.

Sorry Peter, I'm getting all excited here......I meant to say, re apply

[Plonker]

I think someone at UK immigration has got there wires crossed, the letter states you are visiting your husbands family in the UK for 6 months, but the the letter reads on "I am not satisfied that you currently would not meet the financial requirement of a UK settlement application" you are not acquiring a visa for settlement only a 6 month visiting visa right! I think you can dispute this... it's their error not yours.

Also if you have sales of assets like bike/car etc then it would be a good idea to put that money in the bank and show it on the bank statement, which should correspond to the date of the sale. If you haven't done this already.

Also state that you guys will be staying with your husbands family in their house. If this is the case £4k goes along way. If you were to rent then £4k probably isn't enough for 6 months for 2 people. You don't need to supply deeds of your parents inlaws house. I think showing their council taxes, gas and electric, phone, internet bills would be better as they can cross reference this with the local council and service companies to show that everything is legit.

One last suggestion, depending how close your inlaws are with their son, maybe they can transfer X amount say £8k to your husbands account (assuming he still has a UK bank account) wait a couple of months, apply again. Then when you get to UK transfer the money back. If immigration asks where the money has come from, say the truth from my inlaws. Then they'd have no objections to it, as it's impossible to magic £8k out of thin air. Which shows your intentions are for real. But your parents inlaw must show a bank statement that money went out and your husbands statement must show it was received, the transaction numbers must match up.

Good luck.

[anvee]

I think someone at UK immigration has got there wires crossed, the letter states you are visiting your husbands family in the UK for 6 months, but the the letter reads on "I am not satisfied that you currently would not meet the financial requirement of a UK settlement application" you are not acquiring a visa for settlement only a 6 month visiting visa right! I think you can dispute this... it's their error not yours.

Also if you have sales of assets like bike/car etc then it would be a good idea to put that money in the bank and show it on the bank statement, which should correspond to the date of the sale. If you haven't done this already.

Also state that you guys will be staying with your husbands family in their house. If this is the case £4k goes along way. If you were to rent then £4k probably isn't enough for 6 months for 2 people. You don't need to supply deeds of your parents inlaws house. I think showing their council taxes, gas and electric, phone, internet bills would be better as they can cross reference this with the local council and service companies to show that everything is legit.

One last suggestion, depending how close your inlaws are with their son, maybe they can transfer X amount say £8k to your husbands account (assuming he still has a UK bank account) wait a couple of months, apply again. Then when you get to UK transfer the money back. If immigration asks where the money has come from, say the truth from my inlaws. Then they'd have no objections to it, as it's impossible to magic £8k out of thin air. Which shows your intentions are for real. But your parents inlaw must show a bank statement that money went out and your husbands statement must show it was received, the transaction numbers must match up.

Good luck.

Thank you for the suggestion, we have in laws utility bill on top of title deed. Our deed of sale was proof of our assets now (we are the buyer in the paper and not the seller) so we can prove that we purchased a second hand car and motorbike as our ties in the Philippines.

They know we will be staying in their house if they EVEN read my in laws invitation letter stating that they will provide food and accommodation for me/us.

Yes them transferring will be okay but our target date is December 2013 as it will be Dad's Birthday and it'll be nice for us to see him because they already missed our wedding in the Philippines.


Thank you so much, we will update for anything that might come up.

[gWaPito]

Thank you for the suggestion, we have in laws utility bill on top of title deed. Our deed of sale was proof of our assets now (we are the buyer in the paper and not the seller) so we can prove that we purchased a second hand car and motorbike as our ties in the Philippines.

They know we will be staying in their house if they EVEN read my in laws invitation letter stating that they will provide food and accommodation for me/us.

Yes them transferring will be okay but our target date is December 2013 as it will be Dad's Birthday and it'll be nice for us to see him because they already missed our wedding in the Philippines.


Thank you so much, we will update for anything that might come up.

Hi Juvee....I'm not throwing doubt on your application...Just constructive advice okay

I don't think for one moment a second hand car and a motorbike will be enough to represent ties in The Philippines .
You will need close family members to go with you to a solicitor and a arrange signed avidavids. This is what I was instructed to do...They will have to convince ECO why you will be coming back home on or before the end of the 6 month Visit Visa......The people doing the avidavids must have a reliabe ID

Your in-laws will be acting as sponsors so they, like me, will have to provide proof that they have to means to look after you both...........I had to provide proof of my income and outgoings in the form of 6 months bank statements and wage slips, just like as if I was applying for the visa myself.

I also had to provide details of my house...the main concern was there was enough room for you all to live under that one roof.....As I said before, I had to get a surveyor to do all that...none of this was cheap
ECO do not cross reference they will act on the information you provide

Bearing in mind I had no complications getting my mother in law here in March 2013..all very straight forward..the costs was still in excess of £700 for a £70 plus Visit Visa not to mention flights.

[jhen1230]

Hi Anvee
Sorry for the bother but while reading your posts I have seen that you have written and get a reply from the ECM.
PLEASE CAN YOU GIVE ME AN INFORMATION ABOUT WHO YOU WRITE THE EMAIL TO?

[Terpe]

......From my understanding, it is my application.. under my name.. with my passport that they need to be stamped if I get the visa.

Juvee, your understanding is correct. It is your application....you are the only one who can make the application.....no-one else can do it.
Gwapito made a mistake.....do not get confused......continue on the path you're on.

[gWaPito]

Juvee, your understanding is correct. It is your application....you are the only one who can make the application.....no-one else can do it.
Gwapito made a mistake.....do not get confused......continue on the path you're on.

Apoligies Peter.....too many cooks here...especially the odd bad cook like me...I'll shut my mouth now

Good Luck ya all