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    From what I understand the muslims were first on the island of mindanao. So why are the catholics resisting?. Or is that another story?. The way I see it Hamas will only agree a cease fire on their terms. Its not going to happen. Even egypt dont want them in there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    From what I understand the muslims were first on the island of mindanao. So why are the catholics resisting?. Or is that another story?. The way I see it Hamas will only agree a cease fire on their terms. Its not going to happen. Even egypt dont want them in there.
    What do you mean Catholics are resisting in Mindanao? There are plenty of Muslims all over the Philippines. Just in Quiapo, Manila, there is a church and a mosque a few yards away from each other. No news of the two religions clashing or the Muslim and Catholics clashing and killing each other. Being Muslim is not what's the problem there, it's the rebels, which are unfortunately has a religion of Muslim. NPAs are not Muslim and yet it's one of the government's problems.

    The Palestine's problem is not about religion, it's about taking their land that is rightfully theirs. Do you know the Israel is controlling everything in Gaza & West Bank, i.e. trades, access to land, etc. Just that when Hamas was put in government, they have more courage to resist. Just in West Bank, they don't have any ways of controlling the land being taken by Israel. Israel keeps on building properties in their lands and they can't do anything about it because unlike Gaza, they don't have Hamas that would resist and retaliate. Just look at the map and see why these Palestinians are outraged at what's happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Lets put it this way if france sent rockets over here I guess you would expect our army to throw everything they had back at them. Yes innocent people would die. This is what is happpening in palestine. Its up to the muslims to get rid of Hamas. That is my view on the subject. I will say it again wherever there is muslims there is trouble. There will be here one day.
    Andy i agree with the statement regarding wherever Muslims are there is trouble.Just look around the world.Remember they want to dominate and thet are gaining ground.Let's put it this way if they were the majority population in this country they would make us adhere to their way of life.There would be mosques everywhere,Sharia law would be mainstream etc etc.
    That cannot be denied or ignored.As soon as a political faction of the muslim Brotherhood gets elected it's back to the Barbaric crap. Thats how it is
    Now it's awful kids are getting killed by Israelis,but I have no doubt they are being used as shields-that's what muslims do,A woman today was seen sobbing and saying her small child is now a martyr.As for whose land is it,well interesting as it seems the Greeks were the first to land there,The Jews were there a long time ago,the Muslims conqured Syria and spread outwards a long time ago and enjoyed 1500 years of domination.So in effect we cannot clearly say who owns that part of the world.


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    Wow, lots of prejudice here! If ALL Muslims cause troubles, how come Singapore is one of the safest place in the world and 15% of their population is Muslim (Christian is 18% and majority are Buddhist, 33%)? Remember, not all the terrorists do and believe are the same with what other Muslims do and believe. I've had Muslim officemates in the Philippines and Singapore and not one of them support what the terrorists believe and do. They even condemn what they are doing. I don't know, what happened to not tarring with the same brush? So, I must believe that old foreign guys going to the Philippines are sex tourists coz I know plenty of Filipinos who believe that? Or should I believe people here in the UK who claim benefits are scroungers? I was even told in the past that all British people are very rude and be very careful of going here because British are racists.
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    Not all Muslims are terrorists is of course true,you mention Singapore but it's only 15% of the population,if it was over 50% it would be a different place.Many,many Muslims in Uk never condemn things like the Lee Rigby killing,i want them to prove what many people think in this country now that they don't consider themselves British at all (except benefit time)
    Why was there not a great big March of Muslims saying they don't agree with what happened?
    Why did few Muslims not condemn the poppy burning incidents?
    Singapore is safe as they would not dare step out of line there-we should adopt some of there policies.
    Countries in Europe are getting fed up with Islamic demands and are slowly trying to put the monster back in the cage hopefully we will do the same.
    i have said before I'm not racist,I'm not against colour but I do detest the backward genital mutilating,beheading,ill treating of women religion known as Islam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Now it's awful kids are getting killed by Israelis,but I have no doubt they are being used as shields-that's what muslims do,A woman today was seen sobbing and saying her small child is now a martyr.As for whose land is it,well interesting as it seems the Greeks were the first to land there,The Jews were there a long time ago,the Muslims conqured Syria and spread outwards a long time ago and enjoyed 1500 years of domination.So in effect we cannot clearly say who owns that part of the world.
    you've no doubt les because you was there or is it Israeli propaganda your believing, i suppose the kids on the beach and in school were not just playing like all kids around the world do before they were killed but as you believe they were their as human shields

    tell me les where can these people go to get away from the bombings it looks to me like they are being forced into a smaller area all the time and the Jews are slowly forcing them all out.

    as for who the land belongs to, whats the name of the country ? and who are the terrorists , read this , maybe you'll believe it, or as your so biased, more likely you'll say its the left-wing BBC

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/78601.stm
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    GAZA CITY — Israeli artillery shells slammed into a U.N.-run school sheltering evacuees from the Gaza conflict early Wednesday, killing at least 20 people and wounding dozens as they slept, according to Palestinian health officials and the U.N. agency in charge of the school.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...637_story.html

    yes Les, the parents were using their kids as human shields,


    An attack overnight on the Jabaliya elementary school in Gaza, where more than 3,000 displaced civilians had sought refuge, is a possible war crime and should be independently investigated, said Amnesty International today. The attack killed at least 20 people and injured dozens more at the school, which is located inside the very densely populated Jabaliya Refugee Camp.
    displaced civilians had sought refuge,
    i presume the Jews told them to move out before them bombed the school, these are already displaced people with nowhere to go

    http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israe...ted-2014-07-30
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    Maybe if Hamas stop firing rockets it would help
    as for who the land belongs to, whats the name of the country
    Named by the romans
    Little Germany in Bradford is not part of Germany
    I don't want the kids killed but until Hamas stop firing rockets into civilian areas then it will continue.
    So you will say it's an unfair fight-well so was Usa,europe and russia against Germany
    There are no pretty wars Joe.


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    Lots about it on here Joe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield


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    Anyway not arguing on here all night with you Joe,bit of Border force to watch


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Not all Muslims are terrorists is of course true,you mention Singapore but it's only 15% of the population,if it was over 50% it would be a different place.Many,many Muslims in Uk never condemn things like the Lee Rigby killing,i want them to prove what many people think in this country now that they don't consider themselves British at all (except benefit time)
    Why was there not a great big March of Muslims saying they don't agree with what happened?
    Why did few Muslims not condemn the poppy burning incidents?
    Singapore is safe as they would not dare step out of line there-we should adopt some of there policies.
    Countries in Europe are getting fed up with Islamic demands and are slowly trying to put the monster back in the cage hopefully we will do the same.
    i have said before I'm not racist,I'm not against colour but I do detest the backward genital mutilating,beheading,ill treating of women religion known as Islam.
    I'm a Catholic, and I detest some teachings of the Catholic priests, most especially their views with LGBT and RH Bill in the Philippines. Keith has always told me that circumcision is also considered genital mutilation, and yet why aren't it being condemned coz it's a common thing for Catholics? I know some Christians and they themselves don't like what are being taught to them, same views in terms of LGBT. How about the different cults (religion to their members) that does the same as you mention, even conducting incest among them?

    I don't want to talk more about religion. My views are whatever religion you have, there are bad apples, not just Islam.
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    maybe if the jews stopped killing innocent people that might help, and also les they stopped the land grab, your not going to see Cameron condemn the Jews no matter what they do, that's because he knows his place and has been told to keep his mouth shut

    maybe your views would change if the Germans had invaded this country, I'm sure you would love to be forced to learn German, as my mother was forced to by the Nazi's at school
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    I'm a big admirer of the German race
    A Uk,German,scandinavian alliance and trading agreement would be ideal.
    Like I said Hamas are putting the civilians at risk by firing rockets from back yards,they need to stop first.
    According to all information it was never Palestinian land at the beginning-I cant prove or disprove that.
    Listen to the Arab women moaning about Hamas-not Israel


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    My views are whatever religion you have
    Thats why I like the Forum we can all express our views even when we completely disagree,of course under Islamic rule you could not air your views as a woman


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    les, unbiased reporting at its best it looks like its one of those new world order sites
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Thats why I like the Forum we can all express our views even when we completely disagree,of course under Islamic rule you could not air your views as a woman
    Lol! How come one of my bosses in Singapore when I was working there is a Muslim woman? I can't be mistaken as she's wearing a Hijab. I'm sure whatever she was saying, instructing or whatever to her Muslim male subordinates are being ignored.
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    Everything you don't agree with Joe you say it's biased-you will be telling me that the leader of Iran never said Israel should be wiped of the map
    Maybe he was misquoted and taken out of context,oops no it was true as the previous leader said annihilate Israel with a nuclear strike.
    lovely people
    Right you will have to wait til tommorow for reply it's tv night as chatting with you Joe is like the comedy channel on Sky


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    Lol! How come one of my bosses in Singapore when I was working there is a Muslim woman? I can't be mistaken as she's wearing a Hijab
    Completely different in the dominated Islamic states,
    Remember it's a minority in Singapore and Sharia law does not apply


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Like I said Hamas are putting the civilians at risk by firing rockets from back yards,they need to stop first.
    your right about the back yard bit, that's probably the only place they can fire rockets from, as more and more of their land is being grabbed away

    I'm a big admirer of the German race
    i wonder if you would be just before they put a bullet in you or sent you to the gas chamber

    anyway time to finish this, lets just see if the British gov keep supporting them
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    We get on well with Germans-more like us than any other European race.
    I can only admire them-loose 2 world wars,a world cup and still dominate europe.


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    Night night everyone-sweet dreams


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    your right about the back yard bit, that's probably the only place they can fire rockets from, as more and more of their land is being grabbed away

    i wonder if you would be just before they put a bullet in you or sent you to the gas chamber

    anyway time to finish this, lets just see if the British gov keep supporting them
    They're busy putting sanctions to Russia, they don't care about Gaza. The US is even sending more ammunitions to Israel coz they requested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    from the same guy, he's not an extremists is he les

    DEMAR: The definition of Christian Reconstruction is simply
    this: The Bible applies to every facet of life. That means
    not just the judicial aspects of life, such as civil
    government, church government, but business, economics--every
    facet of society. The Bible has something to say about each
    area. For example on homosexuals: We do not believe that
    homosexuals ought to be executed. The Bible doesn't say that
    homosexuals ought to be executed. What it says is this: If
    two men lie together like man and woman, they are to be put
    to death.

    PORTEOUS: What the hell do you think that is?

    DEMAR: Well, wait a minute. If a guy comes up to me and he
    says, "I'm a homosexual," that doesn't mean he's to be
    executed. If you understand the scriptures, it says very
    clearly, if a man comes up to you and says, "I've murdered
    somebody," that doesn't mean that person ought to be
    executed.

    GONZALES: Oh, so what you are saying Gary, is, if you catch
    homosexuals in the act, then the Bible says to execute them.

    DEMAR: The Bible lays forth the severest penalty, which
    would be capital punishment for two men who publicly engage
    in sodomy.

    GONZALES: Does it say "publicly" in the Bible?

    DEMAR: You've got to have at least two witnesses who would
    come forth and testify against the two people who had engaged
    in sodomy. The severest punishment would be capital
    punishment. It doesn't mean that has to be the punishment.
    http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/soundoff.htm
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    I agree with everything Les has said and I am absolutely disgusted at how our pussy leadership have appeased the many muslim extremists that have been allowed to propagate in towns like Luton.. As there are no protests by the Muslim community in regards to this scum,I can only conclude that most Muslims must be quietly pleased about it all.
    Im British and I dont even recognize the area anymore.. DISGUSTED!!
    Israel are not that concerned with the rockets from Palestine as they have the technology to deal with them.. Its these terror tunnels that WILL be found and destroyed before this bout of troubles cease..even if the Israelis turn the terror zone into a ground zero.
    America is weak on how to deal with Irans nuclear weapon development but the good news is at least they know that Israel will not allow them to finalize their nuclear ambitions.. They will level the place before they get the chance IMO.
    The Jews lost 6 million++++ of their people in the last world war by the hand of extremists.
    They will do everything in their power to ensure that it will never happen again.
    Get over it!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post



    That's what I think.
    Agreed


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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    They're busy putting sanctions to Russia, they don't care about Gaza. The US is even sending more ammunitions to Israel coz they requested.
    Never heard of a poor Jew, they almost own America and most of them are actors and singers in fact all famous names, I think it all comes down to money!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    I agree with everything Les has said and I am absolutely disgusted at how our pussy leadership have appeased the many muslim extremists that have been allowed to propagate in towns like Luton.. As there are no protests by the Muslim community in regards to this scum,I can only conclude that most Muslims must be quietly pleased about it all.
    Im British and I dont even recognize the area anymore.. DISGUSTED!!
    Israel are not that concerned with the rockets from Palestine as they have the technology to deal with them.. Its these terror tunnels that WILL be found and destroyed before this bout of troubles cease..even if the Israelis turn the terror zone into a ground zero.
    America is weak on how to deal with Irans nuclear weapon development but the good news is at least they know that Israel will not allow them to finalize their nuclear ambitions.. They will level the place before they get the chance IMO.
    The Jews lost 6 million++++ of their people in the last world war by the hand of extremists.
    They will do everything in their power to ensure that it will never happen again.
    Get over it!!
    Well said Fred-people just choose to look the other way.Keep doing that and one day you will have no say.I pick up people who are definitely not racists off all ages and you would be surprised how many of them feel the same way.
    Hey its not that long ago we allowed people to stand up in our streets saying westerners burn in hell-unbelievable.


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    There is political-correctness/'goodwill to all men' well-intentioned thinking, and then there is naivity and sheer STUPIDITY.

    Ignore basic human nature at your peril.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Never heard of a poor Jew, they almost own America and most of them are actors and singers in fact all famous names, I think it all comes down to money!
    Not sure about that Micheal but I had to use a Jewish ATM once.
    When I tried to take the money out, the message read... "What did you do with the last $50 I gave you"?
    My life already!!


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