Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
in the old days ,there wasn't programs to desgin webpages, not like today, yes by hand, sat with me text editor, just as i use to write assembly language by hand in the early 80's.

more than 27yrs on, and i still can remember 6502 mnemonics how sad is that..

things have moved on, IDE's make it so easy to program now, not like the old days of having to link, complie and make it an exe by shelling to dos

i still haven't meet a teenager who surprised me with how much they know about IT, usually how little they know.. .

show me a teenager who knows about database management, system concepts, conceptual data models and not how to print 'hello world' in java

but kids are quick learners, my daughter knows how to get to websites, and little marius knows how to turn the pc and monitor off, esp when i'm downloading ..

but i agree kids are not pushed enough,,
Mate one step at a time and im impressed how many do program like us with our print out from magazines. Most will do something if they see a result. For example one pupil had made a application which made the name inputed look cool and funky in a different font with symbols around it very simple but impressed all the other pupils who wanted a copy and its a start Geez they are only taster lessons

What i was also impressed with is nowdays many schools, colleges and unis at least teach their kids aspects of ecdl and many give them the chance to pass it. I recomend taking the ECDL to any Phills who wanna get a job in a UK office where using Microsoft office is a given almost as much as being able to read and write.

For example if they make an application which they can use so a scanner will scan a paticular area of a page and put a header on the top of the page automatically may not sound much but its the sort of application companies need and want.
It shows them look this I.T marlarky its all sorts of things from creating spreadsheets with very complicated formulas (required in a lot of advanced and not so advanced jobs nowdays to creating an HTML page or using one of the web page creating applications are basic functions in many jobs in non I.T related jobs, but one people need quite often to go on basic courses to do while at work or they outsource.


Not everyone needs to be an I.T gensius but the basic levels of all need to be raised those specialising can learn all about databases yawn