What You Really Look like.jpgA dualtorus!
And I really look like that too! Everybody does!
There's no such thing as the physical, no distance we travel through, we merely percieve that we do!
We are spiritual beings having a human experience!
What You Really Look like.jpgA dualtorus!
And I really look like that too! Everybody does!
There's no such thing as the physical, no distance we travel through, we merely percieve that we do!
We are spiritual beings having a human experience!
There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
Does Vimvie look like that too?...She must think you're nuts, like the rest of us.
Yes she does, we all do!
We are the universe, we are conciousness, we are not flesh and bone, this life experience is a holograph, including our bodies! Our five senses fool us into believing there is an external physical world that we can touch smell taste etc...but our surroundings truly look like the picture! We don't travel any distance we merely percieve that we do!
There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
So what am I looking at it with then? a holographic eye?
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
Our minds decode or convert it into what we percieve it to be! It's like we are in a highly highly resolute all singing all dancing computer game! Which is being broadcast to us by our creator, or perhaps our creator is intertwined with it, or with us!? The idea that we are a kind of flesh and bone animal is ancient and obsolete, and proven to be wrong!
Really! Really! Really!
I'm not trying to be clever I believe these here words are correct!
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There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
Makes me think you are a fruit cake
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
Keep takin the pills nige!!!...............or are you on injections now
Oh come on guys!!! I can't believe that people don't know these things, I just have to share it with you whether you think I'm nuts or not!?
Boys and girls don't you think that what we know these days is just amazing??
That photograph is what we truly look like, or what surrounds us truly looks like. Our minds decode it into the reality that we are familiar with, but there is no physical external world, no sun stars or moon, we never travel any distance, what we percieve with our five senses (including our own bodies) is an illusion, and we are merely percieving it with our decoding minds. This is something which is practically proven by science! And there you were worried about flying, worried about the environment! And thinking you might die one day...we are conciousness! All of us!
I mean come on guys don't you get excited and mindblown by science?
I know I do!
There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
Think this is the result of eating a bad egg or something
It's been emontional
You said it Nigel, (my conciousness highlighted it in red for you)Originally Posted by nigel
This is something which is practically proven by science! I mean come on guys don't you get excited and mindblown by science?
I know I do!
So where exactly are we on the grand scale of things then? Are we just floating in a big pot of goo?
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
All makes perfect sense to me.... but then I've never been 'normal' either
Keith - Administrator
I'm not sure..where we are as such... but sientist's have proved there are no solids, no gases, no liquids, we are not truly traveling any distance, this so called life experience is a spectacular hugely diverse highly resolute holograph including our own bodies.
So where exactly are we on the grand scale of things then? Are we just floating in a big pot of goo?
Questions/speculation:
1. If there is no physical external world, and what we are experiencing with our senses is a holograph...who's putting the holograph there? And why?
Our creator (god?) is either broadcasting it to us, or is actually intertwined with us?! I suspect he or she is intertwined with us myself. Why is this happening? Why are we experiencing this so called life? I suspect our creator is seeking answers from us!
2. If it's all a holograph including our own bodies, then "where" is the you that is you? And "where" is the me that is me?
I firmly believe that we are conciousness, the body and living and dying is all an illusion!
3. So where is the you that is you, and the me that is me?
I've no idea, but I'm absolutely convinced that we are not our bodies.
There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
Oh dear, he's 38 and has just discovered PhilosophyMakes me think you are a fruit cake
He's actually right Steve, however being right only matters to you when you first think about this stuff or first discover it, as you get older you realise that is it irrelevant to living a real life
I started thinking about this stuff seriously 36 years ago, part of the reason I followed a career in Science, none of it is new and none of it is particularly revolutionary.
Nigel don't get trapped in the internal world it's not worth it, it is a fascinating bit of speculation to think about the world this way but ultimately it is fruitless.
Nigel is of course right uncomfortable as this may be ....................
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yeah how about Jim Ottley's argument with Father Diamond and the Catholic Church 1973, I was arguing this stuff when I was a child
I have my doubts about the specific references (re books) and their integrity but in principal they have some validity.
He's not nut's Sim, he's close but not actually lost it yetDoes Vimvie look like that too?...She must think you're nuts, like the rest of us.
His posts are valid speculations however an individual can get too caught up in it sometimes.
Oh I have great affection for Nigel Jim...He's an optimist, I enjoy his posts, even some of his jokes.
I just don't have any interest in science, just prefer to look at life as I see it, on a daily basis...Apart from pondering the universe, 'why am I here' at times.
If there is a scientific reason, why we chose partners from 7000 miles away, I'd be interested?
Keep 'em coming Nige.
If 'this so called life experience is a spectacular hugely diverse highly resolute holograph..' and is only in my head, why can't I have the most wonderfully fantastic exciting life imaginable?
These posts are either a serious attempt to be thought-provoking and useful as a starting point for further traditional arguments in philosophy.
Or
bizarre.
Noooooooooooo,i dont look like that
''Don't be serious..Be Sincere''
Me too ...but not science fiction
I mean come on guys don't you get excited and mindblown by science?
I know I do!
science FACT is fine.
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
Science fiction is fine as well but Science Fantasy is less so, although it does make for some fun movies occasionally.science FACT is fine.
Some Science fiction authors prefer the term Speculative Fiction to Science Fiction.
The best Sci Fi of the Speculative Fiction variety was written by the old masters like Asimov, Heinlein, Niven and Pournelle and so on, a lot of it now falls into the Science Fantasy category sadly and I don't read so much these days.
As I've got older I've come to understand that a "real life" doesn't exist! It's a spectacular mirage! A holograph! We are spirits having a holographical human experience!
as you get older you realise that it is irrelevant to living a real life
it is a fascinating bit of speculation to think about the world this way but ultimately it is fruitless.
There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all Keith!
This vid is quite interesting..
There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
You must have previously spent some time thinking of your partner, and you would have had some idea of what she might be like. She too must have previously spent time thinking you, and what you might be like. And so your relationship has come into fruition, you have both attracted it! So we are co creators of thought, our thoughts are the horse, our lifestyle is the cart.
We attract what we are thinking! If your in a restaurant and you witness a waitress wobbling with a dinner tray, you think to yourself "she's going to drop that!" and crash! She does! The truth is you dropped the tray as much as she did, we are co creators of thought..
If you are driving to your local shops where it can be tricky to get a parking space, you can visualise yourself just nipping into a nice little parking space in advance! When you arrive you probably will get a parking space! It doesn't work everytime, but it will work often enough for you to realise that yes, there is something in this.
I do it ALL THE TIME! I sometimes attract cashiers to give me too much change when I buy stuff in shops aswell sometimes.
If you go ten pin bowling and you 'visualise' yourself scoring a strike, and feeling how great that's going to feel, you'll be far more likely to get strikes than simply aiming.
The contents of your mind is what comes. Or you could say 'we get what we expect'
So if you expect life to be rubbish, it will be rubbish, if you expect it to be paradise, it will be paradise.
I believe that we are governed by the Law Of Attraction, and that it's politics and everything else that's a load of
Haha
Love&Light!
There are 7 Planes Of Existance:
7 — Material Plane: The earth, where you are right now.
6 — Plane of Forces
5 — Astral Plane
4 — Mental Plane
3 — Too mysterious to describe.
2 — Too mysterious to describe.
1 — Too mysterious to describe.
So next time I fly to Manila and have numb legs and buttocks and swollen ankles after 20 hours of flying/being seated, are you saying that I should tell myself that it isn't real it's just a mirage? I feel a lot better about that now I know the truth
Englishman2010, you obviously didn't understand nigel.So next time I fly to Manila and have numb legs and buttocks and swollen ankles after 20 hours of flying/being seated, are you saying that I should tell myself that it isn't real it's just a mirage? I feel a lot better about that now I know the truth
Let me remind you:-
'There's no such thing as the physical, no distance we travel through, we merely percieve that we do!..'
Means your legs, buttocks and ankles are only percieved to be numb and swollen.
So.. yes, just change your perception. right?
No wait ... I'm getting confused now.
Sorry nigel, no offence meant.
This thread is a lotta fun actually
and if your not actually going anywhere, why are we paying air taxSo next time I fly to Manila and have numb legs and buttocks and swollen ankles after 20 hours of flying/being seated, are you saying that I should tell myself that it isn't real it's just a mirage? I feel a lot better about that now I know the truth
Right, I get it nowEnglishman2010, you obviously didn't understand nigel.
Let me remind you:-
'There's no such thing as the physical, no distance we travel through, we merely percieve that we do!..'
Means your legs, buttocks and ankles are only percieved to be numb and swollen.
So.. yes, just change your perception. right?
No wait ... I'm getting confused now.
Sorry nigel, no offence meant.
This thread is a lotta fun actually
Manila is only a 20 hour flight away because I perceive it to be. So I will tell myself that Manila is a 10 minute drive away in my car, or better still my mahal is actually here with me now and everything will happen like magic
Hmmmm, I am a very optimistic person, but I need a lot more convincing on this one.
Another question, in the West we live in relative comfort compared to Third Worlder's. If it's all an illusion, why don't they just imagine they all live in the Sultan of Brunei's palace and there will always be plenty of food for them, no nasty illnesses and no wars?
I agree, it's an interesting thread. I must go now, I have to get back to the real world that I can touch and feel so that I can earn some money to pay my mortgage and bills. I haven't managed to visualise my bank account overflowing like Bill Gates' yet.
That's for the non existant man made climate changeand if your not actually going anywhere, why are we paying air tax
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